Madonna is expressing her expertise as a mum or dad.

The “Like a Prayer” singer defined why she thinks it has been “a problem” for her six children—daughters Lourdes, 26 and Mercy, 16, twins Estere and Stella, 10, and sons Rocco, 22, and David, 17—to develop up together with her as a mother.

“At present I’m nonetheless struggling to know easy methods to be a mom and do my job,” Madonna shared throughout a canopy shoot for Self-importance Truthful‘s “Icon Concern” launched in Europe. “As a result of, whoever you’re, having youngsters and elevating them is a murals.”

And after a long time of topping the charts and infrequently gracing the massive display screen, making ready for her the function of mother wasn’t all the time simple for Madonna, who adopted David, Mercy, and the twins as a single mother, sharing Lourdes with ex-boyfriend Carlos Leon and Rocco with ex-husband Man Ritchie.

“Nobody offers you a handbook,” the 64-year-old additionally defined. “It’s a must to study from errors. It’s a career that requires a whole lot of time. It’s exhausting as a result of there’s by no means relaxation.”